Love is abstract. It always has been and it always will be. Centuries upon centuries people, poets, authors, composers, etc, have tried to express what love is. But that is all they have ever done, expressed what they believe love to be. They have never proven anything. Each individual still has his or her own idea about what love is. This timeless struggle to truly define love, and therefore a successful relationship, is displayed quite differently through the use of similes, strong imagery, and irony in John Donne's A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning, and Judith Minty's Conjoined.
From the beginning both speakers acknowledge that there is a physical, and nothing beyond that, type of love. The speaker in A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning, says "Dull sublunary lovers' love/(Whose soul is sense) cannot admit/Absence, because it doth remove/Those things which elemented it" (Stanza 4). Just as in Conjoined when the speaker says "Do you feel the skin that binds us/together as we move, heavy in this house" (Stanza 3). Imagery is used by both of the speakers to portray a love that is physical and simple. It does not mention the lovers' souls or even their love really but just the bond that they have when together. This bond comes across as more of a law that they are now required to follow instead of a bond that comes naturally.
In contrast to the physical type of love, the speaker in A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning uses imagery to show that the love spoken of in the poem goes beyond the simple, earthly love. "So let us melt, and make no noise,/No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move,/"Twere profanation of our joys/To tell the laity of our love" (Stanza 2). Tears and sighs are both strong emotions used when people are parting just as floods and tempests are strong "emotions" demonstrated by the earth. Yet, the speaker says that the lovers are not going to take part in the crying and sighing. Which in turn would mean that there would not be any floods or tempests. The lovers bypassing the normal earthly responses to change shows that their love is deeper and more true than a superficial or physical (earthly) love. They have something more, something spiritual. This is quite different than the "lovers" in Conjoined who are more or less stuck together and not experiencing that deep, spiritual love.
Both speakers use similes in order to portray the lovers' bonds, yet they both have extremely different meanings. In A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning it is obvious to the reader that the lovers do not want to part but they keep close to them the knowledge that they have a bond that cannot be broken. "Our two souls therefore, which are one,/Though I must go, endure not yet/A breach, but an expansion/Like gold to airy thinness beat" (Stanza 6). The simile is very effective because it also serves as imagery. The reader can actually picture the gold being stretched to an almost invisible size while still staying the same pure gold it was in the beginning. Thus, no matter how far apart they are the lovers will still share their strong bond and never be disconnected. In Conjoined on the other hand the speaker uses a simile that is not as pleasant. "An accident, like the two-headed calf rooted/in one body, fighting to suck at its mother's teats;/or like those other freaks, Chang and Eng, twins/joined at the chest by skin and muscle, doomed/to live, even make love, together for sixty years" (Stanza 2). This powerful imagery makes the reader uncomfortable and creates a feeling of contempt. The couple in Conjoined is exactly that; conjoined, stuck together no matter what. Stuck implies a very different feeling than just togetherness. These two people are being forced to stay together and by the imagery used the speaker feels as though it is unnatural.
It is extremely apparent to the reader that the couples in these two poems are very different and only one of them actually wants to stay together. The ironic part is that the lovers that want to stay together cannot an the couple that does not want to be together is stuck together forever.
The speaker in Conjoined uses imagery once again when saying, "We cannot escape each other" (Stanza 3). Where on a completely different note A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning says "Such wilt thou be to me, who must/Like th' other foot, obliquely run;/Thy firmness draws my circle just,/And makes me end where I begun" (Stanza 9). The speaker in the first poem uses the word "escape". Escape means that one is trying to get away or rid itself of something. Portraying the fact that the couple does not want to be together but they have no way of changing that. The speaker in the second poem says that although the lovers have to be apart they will come back to each other in the end because that is how it is meant to be.
Ultimately, both of the poems show that people still have very differing view points when it comes to love. But maybe that is the point. That different people are going to feel in many different ways when it comes to love and nothing can ever be pinned down. Perhaps the irony is displaying that the two polar opposites are simply just two, out or many different, and abstract ways of looking at love.
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Yeah PA! We should totally get three-cornered hats...or Amish bonnets lol
ReplyDeleteOk, so I think you took a unique position/argument with the "abstract" theme in your intro, and I think your thesis is good.
I think you provided good evidence, but I think you might want to give a little more explanation about what some of the Donne quotes actually mean. The dude talks in a different language and interpretation is always appreciated :) Also, "So let us melt..." was just kind of dumped without an introduction.
Haha I guess I answered number 3 already :)
I think you did a really good job with the similes, but you never really said what device you were analyzing in the 1st and 2nd bps. Also, the way I'm reading your essay, irony wasn't really a literary device the author's used, it's just a characteristic of their similarities. Idk if that makes sense, but you might want to think about it :)
I think you interpreted the quotes correctly. Yay!
Questions:
1. Ok so this is more of a statement: I'm not sure your theme of "abstraction" carried through the essay, even though it was in your thesis. How is the struggle to define the abstract shown in both poems/ how do the struggles compare?
2. What do the two authors seem to be saying about the nature of permanent relationships? Sorry that was so lame...
3. Um I don't really have anything else... I think you did pretty good
1. Yay! I liked your thesis. I thought it was interesting, and you did a good job of answering the prompt. Good job!
ReplyDelete2. I thought you picked some nice quotes to use to support your argument. I think the second body paragraph would benefit from a lead in at the beginning. Other than that, very nice.
3. I thought that your explanations of the evidence you provided was very good. I like the depth of you explanations for some of the quotes. It made me see what was going on in the poems from a different perspective.
4. You might want to talk about the different devices that are being used in the first and second body paragraph. But, I thought that you made very interesting points with your argument about the similies.
5. Nope, I think you got what was going on.
6. 1) What is the abstraction of love in these poems?
2) Is love ever truly defined?
Sorry, but I don’t really have any more questions. I thought the essay was muy bueno and didn’t really need a whole lot of changes. So…. Great Job!
Ahahaha. Your title made me laugh. Idk why but it just did. hahahahaha. see?
ReplyDeleteYour essay was good my friend! I liked how you talked about the abstractness of love and how it is totally subjective. It made your essay strong because you weren't making assumptions about so abstract a subject.
I also liked how you talked about the irony. I had never really put two and two together about the irony of the two different relationships, so brava!
I did notice how some of your sentences weren't really sentences. Like at one time you started a sentence with "Which." Sorry, it's just my inner grammar Nazi :)
Preguntas!
1. How can you more clearly talk about the abstraction a bit more?
2. Are there any more literary devices that you could have used?
3. Why can't I think of any questions??
Love, Kathy.
Dear whoever reads this letter,
ReplyDeleteMy friends are awesome. They always help me out a lot. And that makes me feel like a sucker because my comments are not as splendid. But let us continue with this letter. The comments that I received were very helpful. Little things that I overlooked, with it being the first draft and all, were pointed out and able to be fixed. Umm, I think that although I only fixed a couple little things it improved my essay. I could still do some more but it's okay for now. Okay, goodbye.
Love,
Ariel